I didn't read the Feline Wizards books, but I see what you're saying. also, daryl had the Silence, which others couldn't really "hear" at all without being inside of him...i was wondering if, with some wizards, another wizard was told to offer them the Oath. I don't know how well that would work, though...

Ronan didnt memorize the manuel. there never was a manuel for him. I mean of course he's memorized the simple stuff but Nita haas too. If I remember it right in my book anyway i think that he get some of his "words",like the manuel, from the air.

Kinda like the part where right before Nita and Ronan kissed, Nita said that she heard something, like when she was a whale , when the sea gives you information.

As far as I can remember Ronan learnt the simple spells off by heart like Nita and Kit but also I'm sure he mentioned a way to expand his mind and subcontouchly download all the spells he needs! sort of a spell to hold other spells in his head! like the cats do in the feline wizard novels! they have a special spell that allows them to carry more than the average number of spells in their head!
Fox

WRR, no double posts, please. You can edit your previous post and add on new comments. You posted only minutes after the first!

The manual contains pretty much the same information as everything else; the difference is how the wizards receive it, what they receive, and how it's organized.

Now to the original topic, I think it is because, a belief is not set in a person at that age. I'm fourteen and I still believe that anything is possible. Some people may start later if they can keep their beliefs in anything being possible. Also I think that young children are not offered the Oath, because they do not really understand the concept of death, so they would take unnecessary risks, or they might get bored with wizardr and give up or stop doing it. Though if a massive threat from the Lone One, in all of its personifications, appeared, the young people that don't grasp the concept of death, and therefore his power, could be the only hope since his powers could actually not even affect them.

Some people were talking about how the children were more apt to break the rules....not true!

Spoiler:In one of the books, Wizards Alone I think, Tom and Carl are talking about to Nita's dad that the adults were more likely to break the rules. Yep yep. Thats what they said!

The YoungWizards.com site has an interesting entry in the Errantry Concordance about a wizard who was older than usual before he accepted the Oath (and presumably before being first offered it).

However, he was the sort of person who did something because he didn't know it was impossible.

Hey Josh, I'm with you. I'm not going to stop believing eather!

I won't stop believing either!

I think that most wizards are chosen around 10-....um....maybe 17 at most? Because thats when they believe that something might still happen while still developing a sense of being an adult. It also means they can grow up with their wizardry and become different as adults then they would if they hadnt had wizardry at all.

Hey! I can still be a wizard! I'm still 14! I only have a few months left till 15! GAH! Must..take...oath.... I would seriously jump at the chance to be a wizard. I've always wanted to be one..

O.o Im using too many big words...brain cannot process. >.<

Hey PM that page has changed alot since i last remember it!! Is it the same one thats on the youngwizards main web site?? or is it a new one? great article though
Fox

DD has changed the system she's using for the Concordance - didn't you see any of the comments about her changing to the wiki format, or were they all on her Out of Ambit blog?

It's the same basic article, though DD may have rewritten parts of it since she originally wrote it.

I agree with yall to. I'm 14 and I still believe in stuff I'm 'not supposed to'. Like magic. Heh, and they tell me I'm mature. Anyways, I believe I posted my views on the subject somewhere at the beginning a long time ago. I will have to look later cause I have to go but I will look one of these days!

I know I'm definitely not as open-minded about things as I used to be. I mean, school, all of that... It's almost like I hardly have any time to think about things differently from what's the best way to get through. I've been trained to get things done without doing all the work I can do. You can be an overacheiver and not go over the top. Y'know what I mean? It's hard to explain, but it caries over outside of school. I learn to live one way, and eventually everything else will be pushed out.

And to make it a little broader, I'll bring in religion. We used to all have our own theories about how thing worked that deviated from whatever religions my friends and I followed. But now... I've settled down? I can't imagine a world _with_ a god as I'm sure others can't imagine a world without and without how it's described at church/ bible or mosque/ koran, synogogue/ torah. But then, all of those could be divided further.

The only thing I remember on Out of Ambit is 'Dont click here,' where it was a link to another web site. DD had to prove she had a web site i think, but that was a search engine of sorts I think! Cant remember any other article! I do try and get on there as much as I can

Your all right by the way, I still stick by my thought that believing is half the battle when it comes to magic etc. It is hard to belive there in all the things in the universe with out a answer like 'god created it', without that answer you have to think and ponder and wonder about things. I gave up on that years ago. Now, I try and think of things I see and experiance. But it is easyer for children to dis-miss a god I think than a adult. I never belived so it was easy for me to leave my dads religion but I think my dad could never leave as the faith is too deeply bound to him, so in a way thats why children are given the oath early. so that the faith is not so deeply imbound that they wont except another answer. god i babble!!
Fox

hey guys fill me in on what I missed!

David Stubee, there is a thing called: reading. *is beaten back by hard stares from you-know-who* Fine, fine, I'll go easy.

*dramatic voice* Welcome to Young Wizards Forums! *echo*

Basically, this topic is about (as you've probably guessed by the title) The age at which a wizard is offered the Oath.

I agree with Fox, that believing is half the battle. But, hey, once you believe and you see that it's real, the battle's over!

You know that they say that it's easier to learn things when you're a child than when you're an adult? Children are more accepting. Adults who are atheists might go along a little easier than adult Christians. Atheists might go: oh, okay. It's different, but okay. Or atheists might refuse and block it out, saying it's a hallucination and that there is no God, Powers that Be, etc.

Adults who have been Christians all their life might (horror of horrors) think that the Powers that Be are a mirage from the Devil! Of course, they could see it as another form of God. There are good sides and bad sides to everything.

Reason: Children believe easier. People have also said that the horomone-thingys (...) have something to do with the wizard power levels.

Uh-oh. I gotta go to school. See ya!

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Gigo said:
Adults who have been Christians all their life might (horror of horrors) think that the Powers that Be are a mirage from the Devil!

Oops. This is the SYWTBAW topic - the rest is a spoiler for later books, up to WH.
True. That was about the first reaction of Nita's parents, while Dairine's reaction was more like "I want some too!". We didn't see how Kit's family reacted, but Helena still seems to half-believe he got wizardry from the Devil; the others have relaxed about it. (To the point where Carmela has a head-start on being the oldest person we've seen who is likely to take the Oath.)
Highlight the above to read it, if you've read those books, or don't mind spoilers.

Somewhere in SYWTBAW, it said that the younger you are, the less firm your grasp of the impossible is. This makes younger wizards more powerful. For some reason unknown as of yet, the Powers That be don't want to give the Oath to too many very young wizards. Why?