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quote:
Originally posted by kli6:
No, see Vogon haiku would be something like:

Thy micturations
are to me as plurdled [stuff]
On a lurgid bee


AH! Vogon poetry! It burns!

Umm, let's see.

In life's name and sake,
I'll put aside death for life,
against the Lone One

Wow, I'm cheap, I used I'll just to make things fit. XD

I'll think of more later.


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Life`s name, Life`s sake,
Make Life safe, make
Life wonderful, Life
Without any strife
That is what We like
All to have, share, give,
Keep safe, never dislike.
Do this, and forgive...

So it`s not haiku, so what? Haiku-version Wizard`s Oaths arn`t very good, IMHO. I`m not very good at haiku, anyway.


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I like haikus. They're a hecka lot easier (faster) to write than, say, Shakespearean sonnets. Then again, I could never figure out if a syllable was stressed or not. Counting syllables, now that I can do. Smile

It's about healing
Helping hurt things to grow right
Fighting entropy
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quote:
Originally posted by kli6:
I like haikus. They're a hecka lot easier (faster) to write than, say, Shakespearean sonnets. Then again, I could never figure out if a syllable was stressed or not. Counting syllables, now that I can do. Smile

It's about healing
Helping hurt things to grow right
Fighting entropy

I don't know much about poetry but I have one more line for the haiku kli made

It's about healing
Helping hurt things to grow right
Fighting entropy
Each day and night


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ShadowWizard, sorry, a haiku is only three lines long Smile. The first line is five syllables, the second line is seven syllables, and the third line is five syllables. Those are the only rules. (Ok, if you wanna be traditional, you can shove a season in there somewhere).

So, out of 17 syllables, you're already got 4. That's ~23.5% of the way done!

You could start by adding a syllable to "each day and night" or rewriting the same concept with words that fit the syllable count. I used to think writing haikus were hard, too, but then I just started doing it, and it got a lot easier.

It doesn't have to be poetic. It doesn't have to be profound. It doesn't even necessarily have to make sense as a sentence. You just have to (like any wizard) love words. It's kind of like fitting puzzle pieces together, and you look at words a little differently when you have to pay attention to how many syllables there are.

Listening rhythms
I hear in the Speech and spell
To steady the beat

Winter or summer
On watch against entropy
On my oath, I stand

My problem is figuring out iambic pentameter (blank verse). I'd love to tackle a sonnet or villanelle or sestina or something... but I can never get the words to go dee-DUM Smile
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I haven't tried this yet. Hmmm.

For life and living
I fight against entropy
without fear until death



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dee-DUM is fairly easy -

The best reference to rhyming iambic, though not pentameter, is Robert Frost's "Stopping by the Woods on a Snowy Evening."

Whose woods these are I think I know.
His house is in the village though;
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow.

My little horse must think it *****
To stop without a farmhouse near
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year.

He gives his harness bells a shake
To ask if there is some mistake.
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.

The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.

----

For some reason, I can only seem to write in iambic rhyming when I do poetry, though not always pentameter. I'll give the Oath a try sometime.




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I have two now!!

Every night and day
To stop entropy, the death
We practice the Art

The Lone Power's curse
We use the Art to slow death
To reach the Timeheart

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ShadowWizard: YAY!! Very good!! (only, your second one has seven syllables in the last line. Maybe use it as the middle line of a third haiku? Smile)

quote:
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dee-DUM is fairly easy -
Well, yes, it's supoosed to be the most natural rhythm for English. And all my friends who write poetry regularly say they do it easily, too.

But I never really got into writing poetry, and whenever I start trying to write verse, everything comes out in troches or dactyls--anything BUT iambs and anything but five even feet. (sigh). I comfort myself with the knowledge that Shakespeare was rarely completely regular in the pattern, either:

To be or not to be, that is the question

(feminine ending: extra syllable). And sometimes switched to troches for supernatural effects. Maybe I'm just witch-minded.

Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and cauldron bubble.


And then, there's that story someone tells about an actor playing Shakespeare for the first time (Baptista, the father, in Taming of the Shrew) and trying to get down the whole dee-DUM pattern of how to say things, and his entrance line was (and nobody to this day can remember exactly how he accomplished this feat) he managed to say:

"Gentlemen importune me no furthur..."

It ain't always supposed to be iambs. Smile

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For some reason, I can only seem to write in iambic rhyming when I do poetry, though not always pentameter. I'll give the Oath a try sometime.
Cool! Someone who knows what they're doing!
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what about this?

Protect and preserve
Through strife death and calm times
No matter your life.

quote:
Originally posted by kli6:
It doesn't have to be poetic. It doesn't have to be profound. It doesn't even necessarily have to make sense as a sentence. You just have to (like any wizard) love words. It's kind of like fitting puzzle pieces together, and you look at words a little differently when you have to pay attention to how many syllables there are.


that's a really good way to say it, I think, and i've written a fair few of poems.

Merged two posts - Peter

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quote:
Originally posted by ShadowWizard:
The Lone Power's curse
We use the Art to slow death
To reach the Timeheart
Yay! We have haiku-crunchy-goodness!!
quote:
Originally posted by neets_wizard
Protect and preserve
Through strife death and calm times
No matter your life.
Errr... second line needs one more syllable...
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Omg people think up such neat stuff here!!! (omg I sound like a newbie!! ggggrrr) Ok here's one shot, but sorry, it's sadly not about the oath.
this is told in the alien's point of view. XD
please don't die,
just try to read this horrible something.
now......... this is my um... something
Lovely brown squares,
all in a row,
eat them one by one,
before she does!

Oh no!
she's touching the shiny stuffs!
she sais she gonna crumple it!
How could she do it?
to the poor piece of chocolate,
that I love so much!
I know it's awful, but I can't write poems!!! Sorry I wasted your time but:
ok sorry I have to put this quote, " I'm going to break off all those nice little squares, and I'm going to eat... it... ALL..." (carmela!)


-AND I AM GOING TO EAT....IT... ALLLLLLLLLLLLL Smile
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i'm a big poetry writer, but i've always perfered a freer style of writing than haikus. dunno why, but that's just me.
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I have a haiku!

Winter or Summer,
Spring or Fall, Battling Death, the
Lone One to kill. Life.

It even has all four seasons!


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the_peridexis wrote:
i'm a big poetry writer, but i've always perfered a freer style of writing than haikus. dunno why, but that's just me.

No worries. That's why we've also got poetry threads over in Chatter II (though you may have to go back a page or two, they haven't been active recently). For me, the haikus were just fun and simple and an easy way for the non-poetry-writers to get involved (plus DD hmmmed when it was mentioned to her. Then she wrote a haiku). As I said above, counting syllables is relatively easy. Smile
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I know it's awful, but I can't write poems!!!
You and me, both. Doesn't stop me from enjoying doing it, though!

Wizgal: Yay!!

life 'gainst entropy
is at the heart of the Oath
do you swear to it?
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Moved Reply:

hello. I saw there was an oath haiku, and i thought it would be interesting to have a topic for all oath poems rather then just haikus, especially since i noticed a lot of people had a bit of hard time with it. Unfortunatly i have to go right now so i'll have to put up one of my own.

----

Ok, I got it. I'm not really sure how well it works, but it seems to fit. Here it is:

Do you pledge to stop the plight,
To fight for light, to do what's right,
Think carefully before you choose,
For this is truly no one's ruse...

(Yes, this is all of it. the "..." is just there to signify that this is just the beginning of an adventure yet to come...)

Consolidated into Oath Haiku thread (since the original stated purpose of the thread was any verse form--if you read earlier posts, there are also limericks and double dactyls in this thread); renamed thread; and consolidated double-post. --kli.

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dragons rule! what? everything else i might say would take longer then three lines. Razz
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Moved Reply:

yr that rocs heres mine

if you want grace and if you want power
if you seek and do not devour
you will read this quote I say
your jouney will begin today...

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Let time keep ticking
Entropy I shall forestall
I do wizardry

Wizards love words well
Tie a knot to close a spell
Slowing entropy
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Okay, I'm going to kill some more time by making another Oath Poem. Or two. Or three.

Life's name, Life's sake,
Protector of life I shall be.
Helping, healing, fighting for life,
Slowing down Death, and thwarting
The Lone One, all in the service of Light.

Likey? It was COMPLETLY on the spur of the moment. Especicaly(sp?) the end. And the second and third lines could be used in a haiku, so feel free to use them. Oke, now, toodles!


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The manual lists
An oath to take; do not dis-
turb except to help

Wind words carefully
Coiled tight about the purpose
Of healing things well



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